. >> joining us from los angeles, lisa blum. legal analyst for nbc news and avo.com. author of the forthcoming book "suspicion nation: the inside story of the trayvon martin injustice and why we are doomed to repeat it." lisa, zimmerman gets into another altercation. this one with a new girlfriend. why the enormous coverage of this guy? >> well, he's a fascinating guy. you're right. the trial absolutely divided america. it's amazing to me george zimmerman finds himself in the middle of searing, hot button issues in america. first it was race. racial profiling. stand your ground and guns. now domestic violence. >> but who cares? he's obviously a loser. the trayvon case is over. why did all three cable news networks, for instance, carry his -- the hearing of his arrest live? >> well, i think it is a fascinating story, howie. i think this is very different from some of the other high profile cases that frankly were not as newsworthy like jodi arias or casey anthony. >> jodi arias had sex. >> right. >> what's so fascinating about it? >> i think what's fascinating is the r